A lot of let's say, less than truthful things have circulated both on this blog and in the public in the race for District Judge. This should clear up at least one of them.
Wednesday, November 21, 2012
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ReplyDeleteWhit Graves has requested that his supporters not engage in negative attacks on Mr. Nerren, so I will remove any comments that are deemed such.
ReplyDelete"in good standing continuously" key words from this document-thanks for sharing Jim.
ReplyDeleteHas Mike Nerren also requested no negative attacks Jim?
No, but if he does I will honor it.
ReplyDeleteHas Mike Nerren lied to you personally....or are you going from rumor? I can say that I personally KNOW Mike Nerren has integrity. I have dealt with him professionally and count him as a friend.......and I am not afraid to put my name on this post.
ReplyDeleteMike Nerren put out a mailer today stating things about Whit Graves that were untrue. This letter sure goes a long way to prove that.
ReplyDeleteI haven't seen the mailer. I will say, everything is really a matter of perception isn't it? I still stand firm behind and am PROUD to support Mike Nerren. I know and have dealt with he and Whit both on a professional level. There is no one in this world that I trust more than Mike Nerren.
ReplyDeleteA lot of us fall victim and can be fooled by someone we think we know and trust, sometimes people we love. After seeing the mailer today from Mike Nerren about Whit Graves, and seeing the documentation above, it certainly calls to question the allegations made by Mike Nerren. I am assuming Nerren approved the mailer, or maybe he is just getting bad advice from someone in his campaign.
ReplyDeleteJim, Thank you for printing this document. It clears up a lot.
ReplyDeleteWell....I have a tendency to only trust those who are HONEST enough to put their name behind what they say and not hide behind anonymous.
ReplyDeleteYou people should read the Supreme Court Case. Whit was clearly supended for lying, all you have to do is take time to read the opinion. He worked a deal where the suspension was deferred which kept him in good standing so to speak and he was placed on 2 years probation which allowed him to work. Whit hiding behind technicalities. Never seen anyone proud of being place on probation. I bet Mike Nerren wishes he had a supporter like Jim !!!
ReplyDeleteWhatever, this is getting really old. I have not endorsed either candidate, and as I said, if I wanted to I would. I have only been trying to present both sides to the readers of My Bossier.
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome.
Obviously homework was not done prior to publishing and mailing mail outs. That is like going to court and not researching the law, scary.
ReplyDeleteAnon 1:51...obviously Whit does not have to hide behind anything. Pretty black and white. The Supreme Court letter states in "good standing", are you calling the Supreme Court a liar?
ReplyDeleteShelly,
ReplyDeleteI am not "in bed" or a good ole boy with the DA and his gang. I do not want to be on the receiving end of the repercussion from simply stating my opinion.
Well why don't you print the other documents from the Supreme Court ?? The suspension one.
ReplyDeleteShelly be careful because they love to attack the ones that tell the truth.
ReplyDeleteI posted the link twice. And no one is going to attack Shelley.
ReplyDeleteAll the documents have not been posted on here to show the truth about the case and that he did in fact LIE!!!! and as far as this blog if you want to lie and make up stuff My Bossier is your blog, but if you want to stand up and defend all the attacks made from the other side and talk truth you may want to start your own blog!!!!
ReplyDeleteOnce again, for about the fourthtime, what lies are you referring to that have been put on THIS BLOG?
ReplyDeleteI'm still waiting for an answer.
Darlene,
ReplyDeleteIt’s obvious you have a personal vendetta against Mr. Graves. You have blasted him from the very beginning. Why continue to beat a dead horse, this letter shows he was NOT SUSPENDED…Geez
MY VOTE IS FOR WHIT GRAVES...and for Camp Nerren to publish and mail flyers into the homes of Bossier and Webster Parish knowing full well he was NOT SUSPENDED is fighting below the belt. Is that really what you want on the bench? I will republish this on everything I can get my hands on to discredit Nerren for taking such a cheap shot. TE
It is my understanding that one lawyer to another lawyer communication has guidelines enforced by the Bossier Bar as well as the Louisiana Bar. One can state facts without a problem. When one lawyer calls another a lier that is a problem. Mr Nerren may find himself in hot water.
ReplyDeleteIt is actually illegal to distribute campaign materials to the public knowingly stating an untruth. Look it up for yourself rs 18:1463(c)1
ReplyDeleteFirst blood was drawn today when a mailer sent by the Nerren campaign accused Whit Graves of being a lier. I wonder what will be next. More piling on bt Nerren or a response by Graves. Hmmmm, integrity just went away today.
ReplyDeletethe letter does not say he was never suspended, or did you notice. Might want to read the case.
ReplyDeleteAn article in the Forum said Mike Nerren has DUI arrests on his record. Is there any truth to the story?
ReplyDeleteThe letter and the suspention have noting to do with each other. The letter is correct that he is in good standing and the case is correct he was in fact suspended. Some people want to know the facts and some don't but whoever you vote for you should make an informed decision with all the facts.
ReplyDeleteAnon 3:34, are you blind or just ignoring the wording?
ReplyDeleteIf he had been suspended, how do you figure he would have been continuously eligible and active?
Whoever wrote Nerren's mailer must've also posted that. Someone should be fired.
CONTINUOUSLY ACTIVE AND IN GOOD STANDING! YOU ALL ARE FREAKING DENSE.
ReplyDeleteThere is an old adage in politics. Never go negative if the election is in hand. Either the Nerren camp violated this rule or they feel they are losing and time is short. Either way Nerren chose to go negative in order to be Judge.
ReplyDeleteFolks, Graves was suspended for 9 months - deferred - and placed on 2 years probation. While on probation, he could still practice law so he remained in good standing. This is not rocket science. Vote for the guy who has been suspended and put on probation or for the guy who has not. Your choice.
ReplyDeleteAnon at 3:28. You are correct. 18:1463c(1)controls here. And if Whit Graves types, mails or anywhere says he was not suspended and placed on probation, he should be arrested for lying.
ReplyDeleteActually the case in question that caused the problem I believe was a first degree murder conviction garnered by Whit Graves. A conviction of any stature is getting rare around here. BTW, in the three years Nerren has been an ADA has he collected a first degree murder scalp? Seems all we get around here is plea bargains.
ReplyDeletedo we want a judge who has only criminal law experience, has lied to the supreme court, has failed to follow explicit instructions from the supreme court, and who blames others for their mistakes? accountablility and integrity are important characteristics for a judge
ReplyDeleteA5:05. I think we just saw integrity today with one candidate going totally negative and slandering the other candidate. A negative campaign in a Judges race? Yeah, right, Mr integrity!
ReplyDeleteIf Nerren ever got a DUI...I am pretty sure it would have been dropped. Benefit of being buddies with Marvin or does no one on here read that wonderful tabloid that publishes every DUI and criminal acts in our city.
ReplyDeletePretty sure that is what has been all over it...DA office being investigated.
I would bet my last dollar there is dirt some where on Nerren. Problem with being associated with corrupt men of power, they hide it and very well I might add. Whatever happened with Whit Graves, he apparently went through the appropiate channels and took his punishment by being on probation. End of story...this is OLD news anyway. How many years now? Is that all you got on the guy? Move on. I would be more concerned with the ties with Nerren and Marvin. Nerren relying on power of other politicians to get him where he wants to be. What is going to be the cost of his favor? That is my concern and the concern of many of the citizens in Webster Parish as well as Bossier Parish.
ReplyDeleteJim, I don't know what "less than truthful things" you are referring to because the truth is - Whit was suspended and was on 2 years probation. His letter you flash in his defense doesn't address this question -
ReplyDeleteQ: WAS WHIT SUSPENDED AND PLACED ON 2 YEARS PROBATION?
ANSWER - YES.
Where does your letter address this?
Whit Graves endorsed by the republican party of Louisiana!!!
ReplyDelete5:49 - You would have to address that question to the State Supreme Court, they wrote the letter.
ReplyDelete5:52 I heard the reason the Republican party is endorsing Graves is because Nerren was caught paying a minority canvassing company to turn out minorities on election day and adding his name below Obama. It has been confirmed that a sample minority ballot was distributed in Webster that endorsed Obama, Nerren and Lord (libertarian ran against Flemming). Small sample of future integrity to come?
ReplyDeleteIs this true about the sample ballot? does anyone have proof?
ReplyDeleteTrue. I have seen sample ballot of Obama/Graves and Obama/Nerren and Obama/Slattery. One had the amendments on it, one had Randall Lord and the Obama/Slattery just had their names on it. Weird.
ReplyDeleteI saw one that had Obama/Nerren and 3 amendments. At the bottom was UID. That is a black turn out the vote company owned and operated by Julian Darby and his brothers. I looked it up at Sec of State. BTW on Nerren finance report there is a large payment to "UID". Payments for turning out black votes and feeding off Obama is not in good standing with republicans.
ReplyDeleteLooks like Nerren political mistakes gonna get him beaten.
ReplyDeleteSo did Nerren have two tickets? One for Romney/Nerren in bossier and one for Obama/Nerren
ReplyDeletein webster?
This is like someone running for office and putting their name next to charles manson just to make sure you get the manson vote too-geez
Nerren had at least two sample ballots tagged to Obama. The Bossier ballot was Obama/Nerren along with three amendments. The Webster sample ballot had Obama/Nerren/Lord. I heard John Fleming may voice his disapproval.
ReplyDeleteNow that the Mike Nerren campaign has attacked Mr Graves I sure hope Mr Graves attacks back with these tickets or ballots or whatever they are. Maybe the fine Romney losers will still be mad and take it out on Mr Nerren. Second thought maybe he deserves it for paying Obama people.
ReplyDeleteI would bet Fleming is not a happy camper, I know he is not an Obama fan, nor are most of us
ReplyDeleteJust cruising thru and it seems the Nerren support has abandon the ship. The garbage of the Skylar way of getting folks elected has showed big time this day.
ReplyDeleteAnnon 650 Its not very wise to muddy Judge Slatterys name in order to cover up the sins of your candidate.Judge John Slattery ran a good clean race. The comment that suggested that Slattery used Obama's names to get votes is a TOTAL LIE!! Judge Slattery worked on Ronald Regans Presidential campaign as a young man and he would never sell out his political values in order to get votes. We all suspect which polical machine put an X by Obama's name. I look forward to viewing the evidence!
ReplyDeleteGo to this link and read it for yourself. http://caselaw.findlaw.nco/la-supreme-court/1066093.html. Graves got off by consenting to discipline.
ReplyDelete9:17 that link goes a matter over a decade old. 8:55 statement is a week old. Which is more relevant? Selling your sole in spite of your claims and being dishonest to all that would support you. How many Nerren supporters gonna be sick to their stomach when the evidence and full story is exposed.
ReplyDeleteAmen
DeleteWOW looks like Nerren ethics are going down the tube. A Judge that talks out of both sides of his mouth...supports Obama...payment to UID...back by DA that is being investigated...knowingly sending out false information about Mr. Graves...Lots of integrity in the Nerren Camp. Oh but let’s still talk about the suspension...the two letters of importance are the one from the Supreme Court and the one from the Republican Party endorsing Whit Graves. That is huge; I bet camp Nerren is running around like a bunch of rats trying to figure out what BS they can come up with next. A person’s true character will always come out. Nerren political wounds might prove to be a bleed out. VOTE WHIT GRAVES
ReplyDeleteI agree with the older post regarding slattery, he ran a good clean race and he is a good man indeed.
ReplyDeleteTrying to link Nerren to Obama is pure desperation. I guess when you have nothing else I guess that's what you go with. Congratulations Graves supporters. Mike Nerren's name on some sample ballots with Obama simply trying to get the minorities out to vote. That's your dirt? Wow
ReplyDeleteNo..paying to get the vote out. Did you miss is financial statement with payment to UID? Trying to link Nerren....he did that himself, don't tell me you missed that flyer. Being backed by DA that's under investigation. Paying for, publishing false statement about his opponent which the Supreme Court letter cleared up. Nerren fights dirty and is surrounded by dirty...you think that makes a clean, fair, intelligent Judge? Wow
DeleteNerren will make a good judge. This site definately comes out against candidates. Against Austin, Whittington, Craig, Thompson, and now Nerren just to name a few.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I find all the good old boy comments against Nerren funny seeing that Collier and Adley and their forces are backing his opponent. Aren't they the original good ole boys? Most support Nerren because they will always support the opponent of the original good old boys.
Most of us are more worried about the former "good old boys" getting any power back than adding to the number of the current good leaders we have.
So if you are fundamentally against good ole boys, shouldn't you vote for Nerren? Didn't Nerren run against Marvin for DA about 9 years ago?
So, if you are against "the good ole boys" then vote for Nerren.
Interesting. I was not 'against' Thompson, I was for Lowrie. Not against Craig, I was for Burchett. Ditto Austin.
ReplyDeleteAs for Whittington, I endorsed him so I have no idea what hat you pulled that one out of.
exactly, you have a favorite in every race- we all do.
ReplyDeleteBut setting the record straight cannot be done from a biased stand point.
How can the republican party condemn nerren for getting support from democrats (which he needs to win), when our republican leaders have campaigned for democrats?
I don't know, I'm not the Republican Party. I'm not even a Republican.
ReplyDeleteAs a republican I would be madder about a local republican leader supporting a democrat than a Republican candidate trying to get Democrat votes.
ReplyDeleteI supported Nerren and will continue to support Nerren!!!!!
ReplyDeletesorry for whittington, I meant edminston.
ReplyDeleteStrikeout again, I also endorsed Bobby.
ReplyDeleteBut you did make a legitimate point - we all have preferences. I'm not being argumentative today, just a little ornery.
ReplyDeleteLooks like you are are leaning Graves
ReplyDeleteI'm publishing whatever press releases I get from the campaigns. Since apparently I'm not on Nerren's mailing list, it might appear that way.
ReplyDeletethe supreme court letter clears up nothing. whit has always been allowed to practice law.he was on probation with a deferred suspension. there is nothing in the mailer that is not true. he lied, and he was on dererred suspension. that is not negative, nor is it slanderous. slander is saying something untrue. if whit would come out and acknowledge is wrongdoing instead of blaming illness, incompetent staff, people may respect him more. why doesn't he publish his letters of apology to the clerk of court and a member of the court?
ReplyDelete10:32 Nerren mailer has stamped in red letters over a picture of Graves the word LIED. This may be a violation of ethics of his oath and membership in the Bar. A complaint may have been filed and a ruling to come forthwith. His paying a canvassing company to turn out the democrat vote and his saddling up to Obama may be legal but may cost him the election. I think Nerren has bigger problems than worrying about Graves action of a dozen years ago.
ReplyDelete11:09 the supreme court opinion clearly said"graves misled this court" "showed lack of respect" his actions revealed a"disturbing disregard for his professional obligations" and "caused injury to the integrity of the legal system." by the court saying he misled the court, is their nice and polite way of saying he lied
ReplyDeleteAnd one other thinng before I go eat turkey. We have just witnessed the nastiest campaign in history. I think Bossier/Webster republicans are a bit sick of mud slinging. For Nerren to launch a negative campaign on Graves that hit a day before Thanksgiving is a little over-the-top. His supporters have been diligent in promoting his integrity and ethics. I wonder if they now have pause? The coming Obama/Nerren rebuttal may finish off Nerren.
ReplyDeleteI personally have no dog in this race but supporting Obama to get votes is about as bad as lying to the Supreme Court!..maybe worse with a lot of older voters. Nerren is suppose to be a "Republican"? I think both candidates are not worth the vote....Is this the best we can do?? Bossier should have voted with Webster for Judge Slattery.
ReplyDeleteNerren did not support OBAMA!!!! Who went in to the voting booth with Nerren????? I do not see how a sample Ballot with Nerren's name on it to get the minorities out to vote states Nerren Supported Obama Not that who someone voted for is really any one business anyway!!!! Sure Graves has one floating around as well!!!! It is so funny how Graves and his suporters act as if THEY have just been so honest and not started all this mess to start with. Graves and yes his supporters have been working on just what they can come up with next to LIE or give False information on Nerren.This is not Graves first RODEO!!!! I have got some mail outs from Graves that has stated things so far from the truth and yes I threw it in the TRASHHHH!!!! I also know that Graves and his supportes like to talk about what they are going to do next and tend to talk to people that they do not realize have been supporters of Nerren!!!! I seen the mail out from Nerren yes it may be old news to Graves and his supporters and they may have posted the letter up at the top of my bossier but seem to have left out a few documents and the fact of the matter is he Lied has started a NEGITIVE CAMPAIGN FROM THE DAY THIS RACE STARTED!!!! The mail out from Nerren is facts and public record not just down right Lie after Lie and you want to talk about dirty politics Whit wrote the book on it he has used Nerrens children and wife and family in his sick games and now he has been working on this Obama thing for a while!!!! NERREN 2012!!!!! IT is funny how its all ok for Graves and his supporters so say and drag family and children into his Lies but let someone tell the truth and they feel they are the ones being attacked!!! Nerren and his family and supporters have been dealing with all the Negitive mess from Graves himself and his supporters for a while now!!!! IT is getting really old how thr Graves camp started all this and now they are the Victums!!!!! Nerren 2012
ReplyDelete@Anon November 22, 2012 1:23 P.M.
ReplyDeleteMeh... Nerren paid the United Independent Democrats (UID) to produce and distribute those sample ballots to get votes. Which since the UID backed Obama and most likely helped with campaigning and donating, it can be linked that Nerren supports Obama. He made a bad decision, and it just so happens that he ended up pissing off the Republican Party of Louisiana in the process.
Also, if you have evidence of the sample ballot from the Graves' camp, I would like to be able to see this. Side note: It doesn't exist.
Lastly, by saying that Graves has had a "NEGITIVE CAMPAIGN FROM THE DAY THIS RACE STARTED!!!", how does this make Nerren or supporters of Nerren look any better. Instead of yelling and screaming, why not try and relax and just campaign like the rest of everyone else is doing.
I'll leave you with a quote from Dan Le Sac (motivational musician):
"In this life you can be oh-so-smart or oh-so-pleasant,
For years I was smart; I recommend pleasant,
Being smart can make you rich and bring respect and reverence,
But the rewards of being pleasant are far more incandescent."
We only have republicans in this race. All three reached out to democrats. You cannot win without the democrat vote. If Nerren or graves are on a sample ballot that's not proof they support Obama. It's proof democrats support them.
ReplyDeleteAre graves supporters stating that they don't want democrat support? Nerren has donations and support from all areas of the district. Would whit denounce any democrat support? Of course not!
So graves supporters say" Nerren has support of powerful republicans and powerful democrats.". Sounds like A balanced man who can preside over the entire district.
The fact that Nerren supporters have been stating that no one went in the booth with Nerren, and the sample ballots are the only evidence. That's all that is needed. He paid for those sample ballots to be produced, and if he only did it for votes and did not vote for Obama then that makes him a hypocrite and a bit of a sham using trickery to convince people to vote. It's the fact that he is getting caught up in what's either a lie or a mistake. If he lied, he may lose the Democratic vote. If he didn't lie, well he lost the people in the Republican Party of Louisiana already.
ReplyDeleteNerren was smart in the fact of mailing it the flyer out on the day before Thanksgiving. Everyone is home and more apt to read it. Where his mistake lies is the content of the flyer. It is my preception and all that has read it that he was trying to send the message that Whit was suspended, lied etc. Nerren plants the seeds of doubt well, yet when he planted the seed that he was an Obama supporter, being on the same sample ballot, its a lie? Which is it? How can one mailer be factual and the other not? One is a negative to him, that is why. Nerren knew what he was doing in both cases. To me, it shows he will stoop to any level to get what he wants. Using whatever angel it takes, yet he is a man of integrity? What is this world coming to!
ReplyDeleteWhere is the falsity or untruth in the mailing? Graves was suspended!!! Even though the suspension was deferred he was still suspended. The Supreme Court said so. Don't be fooled. We have NEVER elected a judge in this district that has a history of disciplinary sanctions. A vote for graves makes us look like a bunch of fools
ReplyDeleteI agree with you.
ReplyDeleteA kid got detention in high school, but they decided that that wasn't right so he didn't have to go. A guy almost got the courage to ask a girl out, but at the last minute he changed his mind. The college football team went for 2, but they missed it. Graves got suspended, but it was defered. What do all of these stories have in common? The kid went on to be valedictorian, the guy found something better, the football team went on to win a national championship, and Graves moved on and hasn't got in trouble since. Everyone has their mistakes, but that doesn't mean the person(s) can't be great. All of this dwelling on the past needs to stop.
ReplyDelete"If you can't forgive and forget how's this? Forget forgiving and just accept it, then that's it. That's how it's gotta be. So you can move on with your life and be free"
None of those stories have anything in common. Im sure everyone has accepted that whit Graves made a mistake and he was punished for that mistake. But I for one am not going to forget it now that he is asking for my vote to be of all things a judge. Sorry.
ReplyDeleteSugar, I think you have a negative brainwashing.
ReplyDeleteI think it's almost shameful. If you know that you have that kind of skeleton in your closet and you still get in a political race then you get what you deserve
ReplyDeleteThose skeletons will get you every time. Vote Obama and Nerren.
ReplyDeleteI could not believe the republican party endorsed Graves. I checked it out and it is true. Just because Mike paid to cause blacks to vote? Why? We always pay blacks to vote around here.
ReplyDeleteThe logic behind that comment is why the Republicans backed Graves!!
DeleteWell, well,well, Mr. Integrity and Mr ethics? Guess we better vote Graves. First to start a smear campaign in an ethical Judges race? Not my kind of Judge, sorry.
ReplyDeleteJudge Slattery was right after all about the under current from rumors planted by Nerren camp.
ReplyDeleteObviously, mr graves knew this was going to be a big deal. Being suspended even if it was deferred and still allowed to practice, is a big deal. I hope this puts it to bed because, as you can see, it is all everyone is talking about
ReplyDeleteWhit Graves knew Nerren was going to bring it on. Whit knew Judge Slattery would never do it but he knew Nerren would. Nerren said suspended on flyer without saying deferred. Wish Judge Slattery had made run off so we wouldn't be embarrassing ourselves again like what happened in Judge race in 2008.
ReplyDeleteThis district has never elected a judge that has been sanctioned by the Supreme Court. A vote for graves embarrasses all of us. Nerren seems like an honest and fair person.
ReplyDeleteAnon @ 4:30
ReplyDeleteYou are why I feel sorry for that dead horse.
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4:30 Ah, I think that may be incorrect. I am not sure of "sanctions" but we elected a judge that had IRS liens levied against him. He had to clear those liens before he could be seated.
ReplyDeleteIRS liens? Who was that? Cox, Self, who?
ReplyDeleteI just know from my attorney friends about our judges that have served here. If we elect someone with a sullied reputation with sanctions against him it will be a black mark on our district. Not to mention the fact that mr graves is a DWI lawyer I mean , why don't we just elect the guy in the hat? If we have a good reputation already, why jeopardize it?
ReplyDeleteA lawyer that helps defend the constitution and your rights, and you're against him. Please tell me more about your extensive knowledge of the law.
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Mr. 613 why you say black mark dude? Wasn't the blacks that got paid for Mr Nerren. I thinks you got your blacks bassackards.
ReplyDeletevideo on judges races below
ReplyDeletehttp://youtu.be/d8i4KzLxPK4
I think that the Bossier Republican Party will not endorse anyone. They are the local voice of the Republican Party. A state endorsement means nothing. Nerren 54%.
ReplyDeleteDenying a state endorsement is important and taking a stab in the dark at what the run-off results will be.
ReplyDeletePlease do share more about your intellect in the field of political science.
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Heard today that Bossier Republicans called meeting to discuss this matter. My guess is State Republicans been talking to local leadership. Uh oh, I hear Ms Price one of them leaders. Who else runs that show?
ReplyDeleteYou want to clear things up? See what has been REALLY been going on? SEE who is REALLY backing NERREN...watch this...would say SHOCKING at BEST but its nothing I already did not know. Just like my mother always said...BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER!
ReplyDeleteWatch for yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8i4KzLxPK4
I don't know why everyone is upset about a lie - isn't lying what lawyers are supposed to do?
ReplyDeleteLooks like the Nerren peeps left town. After the paying for Obama scandal hit and now being exposed via film, I supposed I would duck for cover also.
ReplyDeletewow!!! deep throat now in bossier-new video!
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